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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:26 pm 
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Had a bit of free time this afternoon and stopped by a local antique store that often has firearms from estates, attics and dusty old corners. The inventories are usually overpriced in my opinion because of innacurate grading of condition and true collector value. The owner checks prices on the internet, sees an example in great condition and assumes that what he has for sale is also worth that. Anyway, he has two M1886 Kropatschek Mausers with bayos and cleaning rods. They appear to be all matching except for the bayos and in complete antique condition. Stocks solid, metal in good condition with very little or no rust visible. Each is marked at $700 but he's flexible. (I have purchased from him before so he knows me to have some knowledge).

The other single weapon of interest is a Remington No.1 Military rolling block rifle. He has this one available for $580, also in decent and complete antique condition.

Are these prices reasonable in general terms ?

I would like to extend my collection towards at least some antique representatives but I don't want to spend money on rifles I'll never shoot if there is no chance of reselling and getting my money back at a later date.

Your more expert and experienced opinions are most welcomed.

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I'm guessing you mean an 1886 Portuguese krop. There are three types, the carbine, short rifle, and long rifle. The carbine and short rifle are scarcer. I got a short rifle about two years ago for 200. from a c&r board. I think today, that up to 400 max might be the going price. The bayos usually go for about 50., but the bayo prices on ebay have been going nuts lately, and that may be low. A lot of these rifles have mismatched bolts, so and all matching may be worth more to the right person. These guns don't seem to have a big demand, but they are easy to load for.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:40 pm 
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Thanks. The Krops are both long rifles. I've also done a bit of pricing inquiry which agrees with your figures. The store owner won't be that flexible because I think he paid $500 or so. Antique store owners don't always know the best 'buy it now price.' :)
Thanks also for catching my typo re the date. Indeed 1886.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:45 pm 
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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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I paid 400 for my Krop long rifle last year, and it's all matching. If you can score one for the right money, they are a very well-made rifle and fun to shoot. A finer rifle than a 71/84. I have a load posted in the reloader forum for 8mm Krop using the Lee 205 gr .329 mould. SW

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:50 pm 
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I fell in love with an 1886 rifle plus bayonet years ago so purchsaed it for $65NZ or aobut $40US - twenty years ago I sold the rifle alone for $225 or $250NZ but kept the bweyonet.
I havenoticed that they have gone up considerably in value in the last few years so it depends if you REALLY want it - if you MUST have it then take it while the going is good otherwise you may never have the chance again. I HAD to have a New Model 1863 Sharps the other day, had waited a lifetime to get one and the udnerbidder had as well methinks as he finally gave up at $5900NZ and it cost me $3000 more than I thought but I did get it and that cost $6000NZ plus 10% buyers premium.
The moral of the story is that it is worth what you will pay.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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The pleasure remains long after the price is forgotten! :bigrin: SW

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:35 pm 
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I agree. if you like them get it

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