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 Post subject: Uberti 1858 in .36 cal
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:07 pm 
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I recently purchased a Uberti 1858 Remington revolver, and I noticed that conversion cylinders are chambered for .38 special not .38 long Colt what gives and that you use heal bullets with them? I understand the bore diameter but why the special case, not the long colt?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:07 pm 
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I think the only difference between the 2 calibers is case length so you could shoot 38 long Colt in the 38 spl cylinder like shooting 38 specials in a 357 cylinder.

So far I've been too cheep to buy a heeled bullet mold & just load regular 36 cal round balls. SW

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:14 pm 
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Been thinking about it off and on, noticed the 1851Colts use the long Colt cases


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:38 pm 
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Yes - the 1851 Cylinder I bought was marked 38 Colt, but specials dropped right in with plenty of room to spare. SW

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Is the long Colt case larger in diameter or the same as the special case?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:27 pm 
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I looked in COTW for specs, and it looks like .002" at the most. I wouldn't try swapping things around in vintage guns, but don't have a problem with it in these modern cylinders. SW

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:35 pm 
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Thank you for the info, it will help if I get one


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i picked up an 1858 remington in 44cal , with the 45 colt conversion so i can shoot my cowboy loads in it , it shoots real nice but the loading and unloading is not so easy for a fumble finger like me , have all i can do with the 1873 loading gate , pulling the cylinder every load is way more intense , i do love these old revolvers


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:36 pm 
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I do have a pietta 1851 that I put a Howell .45 conversion I think, had to file all the spurs so it would time correctly


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:03 pm 
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Well I ordered a Howell .38 conversion cyl for my Uberti .36 cal 1858, it's for shooting .38 spl. Will a heel bullet fit in the cyl. The black powder heel bullet is .375, I'm thinking it will not work. Has anyone tried this?


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A heeled .375 bullet is the correct one. Unfortunately, Buffalo Arms hasn't had one in stock for quite a while.

I barely seat a .375 ball in a 38 spl case & get by that way.

Forgot to add you might need to trim the 38 cases so a loaded cartridge will fit in the cylinder. SW

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:40 pm 
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Hey what gives with buffalo Arms? They seem to have very little these last few years?for several years I watched some of there reproduction guns and seem to always be short on guns compared to years in the past.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:29 pm 
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I think a lot of it is the current gun & ammo hoarding trend. I'm on the list to get one of the heeled bullets when they're back in stock.

I have a good supply of linotype metal and meant to order molds from Grafs… they're pretty much out of everything - even odd calibers.

Bullets? Forget that, too. Strange times indeed. SW

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:35 pm 
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Well I used a bullet, made from a Lee .36 cal black powder pistol mold fit in a .38 special case swelling out like a pregnant cow fit in my .38 special conversion cyl by making a resizing die.
My home made resizer is actually drilled then honed down to .378 which is still a little too tight but will go in with a little extra push!
I haven't had a chance to tryout this loaded ammo yet I only used 2 grns of trail boss powder under this lead heeled bullet. They even cycled through my Rosi 1892 in .357/.38 special.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:54 pm 
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Well I fired the revolver with these bullets five hit the paper and all where really light pet loads but the last one I could not find a hole in the paper so concluded it was a flyer. So I tried them in my 357 Rossi and they were very accurate but pet loads . until I cleaned the 1858 revolver and there was bullet stuck in the barrel. The good thing out of this is that the .375 heeled bullet in the .375 diameter barrel was successful in grabbing the rifling on the 1858 Uberti. More powder is next! I am grateful I didn't have a bad day!


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musta been the last round ?

been running about 3grn red dot / bulls eye / 700x and 3.5grn unique to stay in that 650fps of the cowboy loads


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:30 pm 
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Fortunately it was the last shot before trying the rest of them in my 1892 Rossi replica


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