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Did you know a .410 brush will go down a .38 cal Plainsman barrel?

Did you also know it won't come out?

Damned thing just pulled out of the cleaning rod threads, and went just enough off centre that I can't thread it back on (if I could I would have coated the threads of the rod with JB Stick and threaded it onto the brush. Then when the JB set I could pull it all out).

SO... is there something that will dissolve the brass parts of the brush without damaging the barrel?

OR ... can I unscrew the breech plug from the barrel so I can push the whole mess all the way through?

I've looked at it carefully and can't see any sign that it has been pinned, but I don't want to really reef on it until I know that it should come apart. (Like maybe it has been silver soldered? Oh I hope not)

It also looks to me as if there is an irregular cavity behind the flash hole, where old powder residue collects, so I want to remove that plug anyway.

The Pedersoli site is no help in finding a barrel/action wrench specific to the Plainsman. It is a hex barrel so if I can find a 13/16ths hex wrench I may be able to wiggle it up over the tang onto the barrel. Is there action such a thing as an adjustable barrel/action wrench? (They seem to called Action wrenches, but with a muzzle-loader there is no "Action" per se, so barrel wrench seems a better name in this case.)

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The wires of the brush are angled so they dig into the barrel. You might try copper solvent as brass has copper in it. If the barrel is exactly 13/16 you should be able to use any wrench of that size and they are available. There is also metric wrenches close in size if not 13/16ths.

Never put an oversized brush in a dead end barrel.

If you rotated the brush it may have came out while turning.

Rad

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How deep in is it?

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I don't think you will be able to slide the case over the brush with the wires angled as they are. But you will never know till you try.

Rad

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Dumb idea of the day... trickle some powder into the flash hole and blow it out. I've done that with patches that came off the rod. SW

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why does this scare hell out of me guys ?????????????

I thought of the powder-through-the-flash-hole idea and put it on the "if nothing else works" shelf.

I glued a cut off section of a .32-40 case to a 3/8" dowel, pressed some JB Stick in the cavity, sent it down the muzzle onto the threads of the brush and let it set. Years ago I bought a tiny little 5-to-1 and never found a use for it until now. I tied the barrel and the 5-to-1 to the rafters (so I could get a straight pull), tied a knot that bears some faint resemblance to a Prussic knot onto the dowel and then was able to pull it out!

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I love it when a plan comes together! SW

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Powder thru the flash hole won't blow up the gun, but you will need alot more than the amount needed to cough out a patch. I have coughed balls out that were loaded sans powder.
You may also want to try a bullet puller with a much longer screw. It may bite and ruin enough bristles that the hold is weakened.

glad to hear the success , thinking this is another reason ill steer clear of the muzzle stuffers

That is why I like my Encore with the removable plug. You can run the brush through like a bolt gun.

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that makes sense to me

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