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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:04 pm 
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The 87's were a mostly cheaper model with wood stained to look walnut, they were copied from the 1936-1947 model's 76 and 076(best sights). Anything buckhorn, was supposed to be a better rifle ~ wood, sights, etc. The different models had small changes, i.e. trigger guards, painted stocks, "tenite" plastic stock etc. the models with the "square" receiver ends are: A,AB,AT,B,C,D,K(carbine model). The rifle was changed somewhere around 1958 to have a sloped rear receiver endcap, but it still screwed in....models 87E,KE,J,N,187E,187H,188H~
and we also know that the war era spawned the 87M, A HIGH PRICED garrand copy useing the 87's basic features, with special sights....yeah! try
and find one of those babies!$$$ cha~ching!
there was also a short lived "gallery" shorts only model 872(Savage 602) circa 1940~
the "clip" models were the same receiver etc as the mag tube models...
only named 85's....85,85A,85K(carbine model)circa 1939. Similar models were 57,& 057 circa 1939-1947, and the 850.
Sears had their models stamped ranger 101 and stuff… westerfield had a 87 marked 808. coast to coast 288, westpoint 287, hiawatha 189-J, hiawatha 189-N & westerfield 808-N. 87J=B-964 belknap, 87N=B-964 belnap.
they look good when they scope mounted with the T and N mounts and a old weaver 29S(1937) or the cheaper weavers G (1947) B (1953) series. (Try Numrich Gunparts - I bought a Weaver accessory scope mount base plate which according to instruction sheet fits many of the Savage 6A variants - it matched the predrilled/plugged holes on our "Ranger 101.16/ Savage 6A" perfectly. Part Number 573370 - not shown in their on-line catalog.)
Savage made the 6 and 7 series~6A,AB,B,C(cheekpiece model)D,S(factory installed peepsights) The 7 was the "clip" model~7, 7A. the factory scoped models were 6E,6H,6DL,6J,6M,6N,6JDL,6P.
The 6D came out in 1955. It had a grooved receiver for the tip-off mounts.
So, I THINK that the 87 started in 1938 and ended with model changes 1958. These changes appeared to be the sloped rear cap, less "fins' on the left of the receiver, and wood finishes.
I think Savage started selling scopes and mounts in 1936 and D&T'ed the receivers in 1937. The receivers were D&T'ed with two hole for the Weaver T mount.
After WWII Weaver came out with the N mount which had four holes.
Looking in the scope book, I see that the "S" mount was first used in 1934 and the "T" was added in 1939.
Both scopes line up on the C/L of the bore. Mounting hole spacing of both is
approx. 2.35" CTC. The S-1 is called the low (C/L to T/Receiver=.5"), and the
S-3 (C/L to T/Receiver=1.0") is the high mount. These mounts are shown on page
263 & 269 in Nick Stroebel's book, "Old Rifle Scopes. I don't know if there ever
was a S-2 mount, or how it differed from the S-1 & S-3 mounts.
The 150 Savage peep sight with two holes will fit those two holes on the left rear receiver in the 87’s & 85’s.

Notice too......as we get toward the end of the era, the cheaper manufacturing techniques...the extractors are no longer spring loaded little hooks, but a one piece spring clip....also the EARLY 87's had no peep sight or "n" scope mount holes on the receiver ~BUT, nothing is sure here....ALL records are lost, I have been taking notes and old magazine adds to get my info~and last but not least.....the company used what it had.....as I have a factory 87K with a barrel mark "D" on it. Marks on barrels may help too in the manufacture date~Utica NY until 1947, Chicopee Falls until 1960, Westfield after that.

thanks be to rick, & ‘sarge’ and others for this info~
here's a good thread~
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... ht=stevens

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great collection , i know why you love these , there is so much to love and they are so fun to shoot - not to mention the fantastic design/quality of these rifles


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:03 am 
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don, the machII 17 isn't in there, but it's #14! :grin:

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I've got A cataloge dated 1949. It has several Steven's. As far as 22's it has A model 84, 86S, And 87. Fantastic picture's. The highest priced one is the 87, At 27.75. Well no I read down A little and they list A 87S for 30.75, It's higher because it has A Micro Peep sight, With hooded front sight. They show the Micro Peep sight on the 86S, Wierd looking thing. It mount's on the very end of the reciever, Above the cocking knob. And as I keep reading this as I write, The 87 was A semi automatic, That as the ad put's it, Convert's quickly to A single shot. Interesting stuff. Who would've thought you could learn gun history from A 1949 Alden's cataloge


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I remember as a kid that My dad had a 22 rifle (Ibelieve a stevens) that was a tube fed bolt action but if you pulled on a knob it became a semi????? Am I remembering wrong?

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Pretty well describe's that Steven's 87S. Just by what I've been looking at.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:56 am 
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mikmarjon wrote:
I remember as a kid that My dad had a 22 rifle (Ibelieve a stevens) that was a tube fed bolt action but if you pulled on a knob it became a semi????? Am I remembering wrong?


the 'bolt' can be pushed in to make it a manual-action for shorts,longs. then pull it out for lr semi mode.........i used this to make one in 17mach2 SS. pretty accurate too!

these are just a slip-in type of collection....i started getting a few different ones...noe 2 or 3 more won't hurt...then i researched, then more....now i am almost complete with a m and ab and at needed to compltete the main models offered....then there's the 872~ heard of only 2! and one fellow i know bought on at a sale for $100......... :-?

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my dad had a stevens as well - tube fed bolt action , IIRC it was a model 69B ? it burned in the house fire ......wish i had it now


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