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Author:  calfed [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Good weekend for US military rifles (I hope)

Lucked out at the auctions this weekend (I hope). Got an 03A3 and a 1917. Unfortunately, only one pic each and very spare descriptions

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.a ... 595&aiid=0

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.a ... 371&aiid=0

Price seemed good, but never know about these things till the big brown truck arrives.

Author:  Swede [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Good weekend for US military rifles (I hope)

I'd say you did great.
Dang, now I'm going to have to get an account there.

Author:  A square 10 [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good weekend for US military rifles (I hope)

very nice - 03A3 & M17 , cant be a bad deal if you think of it as EVERYONE needs those , congrats :D

Author:  calfed [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:07 am ]
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Thanks, guys. Still waiting to actually receive the goods.


I'll post some better pics when they arrive

Author:  A square 10 [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:35 am ]
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ill keep comming back till you post em :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

Author:  calfed [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:20 am ]
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The 03A3 and the 1917 arrived.

The A3 is in great shape-seems pretty original, EXCEPT--they weren't kidding when they said that the stock had been refinished. It is a very nice refinish job, but they worked the cartouches over pretty hard--very faint now.

The metal is in great shape, barrel dated 1-43 with a receiver that was made that same month and year. Barrel measures a "1" on the CMP muzzle gauge. All the parts I can see are marked "R" except the bolt , which is marked "N. S." on the top.

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I'll post some pics of the 1917 tomorrow

Author:  A square 10 [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:56 am ]
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very nice , looks pretty much to be original bits as well

looking forward to the M17 :-o

Author:  calfed [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:11 pm ]
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Thanks, square 10.

The 1917 is not bad, but a REAL mixmaster--Eddystone receiver and stock, Remington barrel and Winchester bolt. All of the small parts are Eddystone.

Barrel is just a smidge under "2" on the CMP muzzle gauge and passes the Field gauge test.

Parts look like they are still blued

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Author:  A square 10 [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:27 pm ]
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these are notorious for mixing of parts - the US required interchangeability , its still in military format thats a big plus to start ,

if the bbl is good [many arent] it should shoot well and please you , these actions are super , i think it looks great

Author:  calfed [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:31 pm ]
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Thanks.

I'm not sure whether "2" on the CMP gauge is good or not. Been told that anything less than "3" is not too bad.

I'll give a range report when i shoot it

Author:  A square 10 [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:52 pm ]
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well - i dont measure mine when they are 90 years old , i think these old girls have every right to be what they are

[fooled ya - thought i might post a blue remark -right ?]
:lol

seriously , this is a WWI rifle , it has every right to be less than factory fresh , these were heavily used , and passed around amoung our allies , it got USED and it deserves a good home , its not so often that you can find a pristene rifle , produced in wartime , that didnt get used some ,

given that these were an xcelent action , prised for caliber conversions as well as deer rifles , its a wonder we have so many , these are a particularly interesting rifle to me

Author:  calfed [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:01 pm ]
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I agree. My son and I shoot in a military silhouette match where military rifles of at least 50 years of age, "as issued", are used to shoot metal silhouettes of chickens , pigs, turkeys and rams at distances of 200 to 500 meters. We have been using Swiss rifles , but might have to try this one at the next match.

I did find this cartouche on the left side of the 1917

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Author:  A square 10 [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:00 am ]
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thats thought to be a rebuild marking , they dont know its true meaning , lots of speculation ,

the M1917 left the factory without a cartouche , it did have the bold letter in the muzzle end[R-W-E] to signify the factory , and the numerous inspector marks [EAGLES HEAD & #] generaly on the wrist and around the trigger guard ,

the canadians stamped a "C"arrow property mark , new zealand a "N"arrow"Z" and britain a broad arrow and they were often painted with a band of red to signify the non-standard cartrige , unit marks were stamped by these as well as the danes
left side cartouches indicate rebuilds - probably when the remington bbl got put on it

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