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mukden t38, no series 5million range

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keithreid

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:40 pm

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found this one online, and it's on the way. mum has been scrubbed, but i don't collect flowers. don't notice years of production listed on the stickies, anyone know what years these were made? thanks, Keith

bad thing now is that i'm 3 mukden bayonets behind. all in all, i guess that's a good complaint to have though.

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A square 10

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:17 pm

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great looking rifle , nice find

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:30 pm

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Keith, would you see if a regular T38 bolt form another arsenal will fit into that rifle. I have one that a bolt from another arsenal will not close and I have heard of others. Riceone.

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:44 pm

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:25 am

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:36 pm

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That is a nice looking Mukden, Keith.

Riceone's question regarding the bolt fit caught my attention, and as I already had my type 38's lined up along the basement wall for cleaning and checking them against the new type 38 book, I tried swapping bolts.

I have Mukden type 38 rifle #5061854 and tried bolts from rifles of Tokyo 20th, Mukden 50th(W3), Nagoya 27th, Jinsen 30th. Nagoya 5th t-38 carbine, Nagoya 2nd type 44. None of these bolts would close in #5061854 and a couple of them got wedged in the rear position and took a smart slap of the hand to get them out.

I didn't try other combinations but it doesn't look like they are interchangable.

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riceone

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:33 pm

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When I got the rifle someone had done some serious grinding on a T99 bolt and got it to close. Lugs don't match from a 38 to a 99. I think you could get by, by just grinding the protrusion on the outer rim of the 38 bolt but I took the barrel out and took some metal out of the cone so I could leave part of the protrusion. I checked the headspace with gauges and it is still correct so I did nothing to the chamber. I wonder does a Mukden bolt have that teat on the front of the bolt? riceone.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:39 pm

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Bolt has the projection on the front just below the ejector slot, if that is what you are refering to. They all look pretty much alike. Without miking them, I doubt one could tell where the interference is.

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:57 pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:44 pm

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Nest time I see my Mukden carbine I'm going to compare it with a nagoya bolt. May even take the barrel out and see if the end of the barrel is machined for the tab. The regular T38's are. riceone.

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