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I was wondering what the best way to duplicate the finish on a type 99 is? I purchased one quite a while ago which someone had thoughtfully sanded.

Dave

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It's not to easy to do Dave you have to find a stain with right ammount of red to it , and then finish it off with a coat of shelac . You might talk to riceone I think he might have done it a time or two.

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I have gotten pretty good results using these three items. Solar-Lux Lt. Orange Yellow stain, Antique Maple Wood Stain and Shellac. I got the first two from Brownell and the Shellac from a store up town. Solar-Lux gives it the oringish yellow color and the maple make the darker reddish color. I pour an ounce or so in a small shot glass then pour dabs of the other to get what I want. The shellac give it the hard gloss look. You can get close but you will never match what the Japanese put on it. riceone.

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Thanks Roy! I have been looking at stains for a while and have not seen anything I considered close. I knew you would have some idea how to make it look more like the original. I am going to round up what I need and work on that this winter.

Dave

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I failed to m ention the ounce or two is shellac, it just takes a dab of the other to change the color. You can always make it more yellow or reddish so go slow at first till you get where you want. riceone.

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Take a look at the forearm on this rifle. I refinished it to match the stock.

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Wow! That is a great match job. I have to do the whole rifle, and it is the only Jap rifle I own. I have nothing to compare it to.

Dave

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nice match job Roy,
Is that white or orange shellac?

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03man

White (or clear) riceone

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I have had this one a while. I shot it when we went on our shoot with Ray and Dave a few years ago.

Dave

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Wow, how on earth do you guys have the patience to type such long (and informative) threads

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The urushi that I have came in a large tube like toothpaste. It is clean and you squeeze out what you think you will need and stir in mineral spirits till you get the consitency you want. What I have is clean and you have to color it, so you are back to square one. "Color" Right after I got it I mixed some up and put it on a stock. I had a long sleeve shirt on and rubber gloves. I forgot about my face. The fumes from it gave me a bad case of poison ivy - or what looked like it. In a week or two I decided I did not like the finish so I took it off. Still had not learned to cover my face and broke out again. Be a long time before I forget again.

Urushi is a common Japanese varnish that is used on lots of wood products and is very common in Japan. It is make from the juice of some vine that is of the same family as poison ivy. riceone.

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Stan Zielinski has written extensively on the wood used in the arisakas in Banzai. Check out the Banzai website, the info is there.

The stocks are definitely not rosewood. They are Japanese walnut, another tree, I've forgotten the name, and a relative of beech. Japanese walnut is similar to european, very light in color, not like the American or black walnut at all, much softer too.

Stan's articles are very interesting and scholarly, he has had wood samples analysed and done it right!

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I had the same experience with Urushi as did Riceone, i.e. a bad , no very bad, case of poison ivy.

I still have a tube of urushi, I won't touch it again.

I think the key to success in using it is to have the controlled humidity cabinets as described in the Urushi web page.

Anyone that wants to try, and is NOT allergic to poison ivy, feel free to contact me.

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You guy's are making me itch just talking about Urushi.

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....it just makes me wonder how the folks that made the stuff did it... ....were they immune...???

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.............deplorable typical "bitter clinger"....

.....many moons ago,when I was a kid,I remember a friend of my parents while we were on some 'outing' in the country-who had to ...uhm.....go #2.......he went out to the woods and took care of things.....and then spent the next week in the hospital because there was no TP out there....so he used the 'nearest available leafy plant' .....true story-no s**t.........

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im wondering how they had the patience to get those refinish results - let alone type the long explanations , beautiful work