....I think its an early WW2....(just my opinion)...but I did find this ....
Pre WW1 - WW1 No labels. Maybe a tailor tag. Mine are blank (Civil War and WW1 Gunner's Mate 1st Class, WW1 Hospitolman)
1930's woven Naval Clothing Factory label (from 1930's Sn dress blue jumper and pants)
WW2 printed Naval Clothing Factory label (from approx. 15 different dress and undress jumpers and pants)
Korea printed Naval Clothing Depot label (from P-coat and 2 NOS jumpers)
Vietnam printed label with DSA number. Early don't have the date, later do. examples:
DSA-100-2492 - on working blue jumper of Aviation Electrician on the USS Wasp when she was recovering the Gemini capsuls in 65.
DSA 100-69-C-1718 on dress jumper of Fireman on the USS Albany in 72. the '69' is the date of contract.
1980's
printed on polyester tag with DLA number. Some early ones only have the maker's tag and an approval label.Example:
DLA188-83-C-0854 on dress jumper of a Gunner's Mate First Class on the USS Lawrence
My tailor made uniforms are all black in color and more like the quality of the officer's coats. Of the 3, only 1 has any labels and it's the maker's tag and the type of cloth used. Even my 80's one only has the maker label. The material is entirely different from WW2 stuff tho. The new 100% wool uniforms are close to the WW2 tailor made, but not identicle. another way to tell if it is WW2, is if the sailor was a Sn or below, he wore a stripe on the jumpers. Red for Fireman rated on all 3 types of jumpers, and for Deck rated, blue on the whites and white on the blues. Fireman wore the red stripe on the left shoulder, seamen on the right. This was discontinued in 47 also.
Rates also show the age. The rate of Seaman Recruit through Seaman (E-1, E-2, E-3) which are diagnal stripes on the upper left sleeve about halfway, were instituted in 1947. These stripes are wgite, blue, or red. White for seaman, blue for constructionman, red for engineman. From the early turn of the century until 1947, these first 3 rates were shown on the cuffs of the jumper. 1 stripe was E-1, 2 stripes E-2, 3 stripes E-3. The crows rates, E-4 to E-6 were worn on either the right or left sleeve depending on the rate. Deck rated were all right sleevers.
The ship and company sleeve titles you see on the upper right sleeve were instituted around 1952. The rate for medics was a red cross, the cadeuceus is 1947 on.
The last rate for a Chief Petty Officer was just that. Senior and Master Chiefs both came out after WW2. Thier coats had 8 button fronts instead of 6. So did the enlisted Pea coats which also will have a corderoy lining in the pockets and have a line of stitching on the cuffs a few inches from the edge (so do Korea ones). The khaki coats with chief's rnk in bullion are most likely post war. Neither myself nor the many insignia collectors I've talked to have ever seen a used wartime example of a khaki bullion rate. Not saying one doesn't exist as they did for the blue 'reefer' coat and the gray coat. The smaller CPO badge was worn on the hat only, not the collars. That regulation came out before Korea. One the CPO cap, there is no background(tombstone) behind the CPO badge. It's on the coer itself. The 'tombstone band is a post WW2 thing. Also the letters USN are not straight, they follow the curve of the rope or the N tilts down. Hope that helps.
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