Early Victory model, just before they went over to the V serial block... Australian proofs... matching, import mark, FTR.
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| Author: | fingolfen [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
Early Victory model, just before they went over to the V serial block... Australian proofs... matching, import mark, FTR.
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| Author: | HerrMesser [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
Looks nice. Rad |
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| Author: | A square 10 [ Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
its in 38S&W correct ? you will enjoy that , nice grab |
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| Author: | fingolfen [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:55 am ] |
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| Author: | DeanMk [ Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
I always found it odd that the Victory (and the Enfield Mk.1) were chambered in .38 S&W and loaded with the 200 graiin bullet (.38/200, as the Brits called it), yet in later years, its the .38 Special that features the load with the 200 grain bullet. I wonder when the change took place? Nice ol' gun, though. I wish I had one. Dean |
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| Author: | JOHNNY WACKO [ Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
Sure is a nice revolver. 
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| Author: | subhunter76 [ Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
I want one ! I want one! |
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| Author: | A square 10 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
the change is not so much a change - these were in production , just got adopted to the needs of the country that intended to employ them , those made in 38s&w - actually the brit caliber went there ,  its the one at position two up from the bottom , lend lease version , contracted by the brits to smith and wesson before we actually entered the fray , those made to be issued to our air crews mostly , lots of fighter pilots wore them , were 38spcl , 
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| Author: | DeanMk [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
A Square, I was actually asking about the round, not the gun. Dean |
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| Author: | A square 10 [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
i knew that - its the early S&W in 38s&w that the brits used - early contracts , late 30s early 40s , but these were 200 grain bullet of the brit contracts , the current 38s&w are not so heavy its when the US government , wrote our contracts that the 38spcl was required in 42 on , |
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| Author: | DeanMk [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:08 am ] |
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| Author: | A square 10 [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:11 pm ] |
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im sorry - the brit contracts with S&W were for revolvers that were compatible with their 'standard' ammo the 380-200 grain they used in their enfield/webley no2 revolvers , the ones in my case mounted above the S&W pre-victory , its chambered for the s&w 38 cartridge , very similar to the eley 380-200 just a lighter bullet , when the US contracted with S&W , we wanted the standard american round - 38spcl cartridge , thus the one in the bin , a victory model , is in 38 special , same guns just a different bore diameter and chambered for a different cartridge , my brit contract revolver is near identical the US version except for the round they chamber , the 38S&W is short and a tad larger around , the 38 special is what we all grew up with and same as a 357 except you do not want to confuse these when shooting these old revolvers |
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| Author: | DeanMk [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
A Square, Ah, I get it now. Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated. I never knew the Victory model was offered in two different chamberings. Always loved the model 10 with a 5" barrel. My favourite configuration. Dean |
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| Author: | rooster [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
howdy in the book " With British Snipers to the Reich " by Capt. C. Shore he metions carrying 200 gr Western Lubaloy ammo in his revolver |
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| Author: | A square 10 [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
one further clarrification that is really semantics when you get to this minutia .... the revolvers sold the brits were "pre-victory" S&W revolvers that were commercial versions in the 38S&Wcal of the day , this was before we entered the war , i think S&W called them a model 10 ? they needed revolvers badly and the cartrige was similar/same , the "VICTORY" revolvers were actually produced for a US contract , thus they added the "V" prefix to the serial number , it used the 'newer' cartrige development of the 38spcl that police forces were want to specify for many years , |
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| Author: | DeanMk [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smith and Wesson Early Victory Model |
A Square, I might be a bit off on this, but its my understanding that S&W changed their model designations just after the war. The "Military & Police" revolver became the model 10 and its many varients. I never knew the Brit L/L revolvers were "pre-Victory" models. I had assumed that's how the "Victory" version got started. Thanks for further clarifying the model differences. Dean |
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