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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:21 pm 
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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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...or more properly, Heroines. Times were tough & everybody participated as needed. SW

Hero of the soviet Union, Lydia Litvak with her Yak-9. After her pilot husband was killed by Germans, she became a fighter pilot, too. KIA - aerial combat.
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Hero of the Soviet Union, Maria Dolina shown with her PE-2.
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Ekaterina Budanova shot down 11 enemy planes with her Yak-1. KIA - aerial combat and posthumously awarded Hero of the Russian Federation.
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Alexandra Samusenko - Tank battalion commander and target of many panzerfausts. KIA 1945.
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Hero of the Soviet Union Ludmila Pavlichenko, sniper. 309 kills of whom 36 were Grman snipers.
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Nameless soldier. No medals shown, but her 'thousand yard stare' speaks volumes.
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Hero of the Soviet Union was roughly equivilent to the American Medal of Honor. They were not handed out for trivial matters.

This post is not to glamorize Russia - but an example of the desperation to win at any cost. Tough times, indeed. SW

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Interesting picture show. That is really cool!

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i never even thought of the idea of 'glamorize russia' , i thought only of how much these women gave to their country and how befiting the honor


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I never gave the glamorizing thing a thought. At this point (60 odd years later), knowing more than we used to about the Soviet Union, I don't believe that honoring the old heroes and heroines of a defunct regime would be idolizing the ideology. These were folks the same as you and me that (forced conscription aside) fought a despised enemy. They had a reason to hate and fight. They did it with dedication and they won. Once they saw and heard of the atrocities, people like Vasilli Zeitsev fought because they wanted to. A lot of them had family and friends murdered at the hands of the Einsatz Grupen. As long as the people are being honored and not their uniforms, I see no shame in it. Seeing that you are a vet yourself I can understand the cautious disclaimer. The Communists were my enemy too, but I came a generation later and it was only the ideology that I guarded against. My war was one without bullets. "Better Dead Than Red!"

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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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Another reason many women joined the armed forces: you got something to eat. During the course of the war, actual millions of Russians starved to death.

There was quite a photoset of women who fought during the war. Most had been awarded Hero of the Soviet Union.

I picked these 5 as they looked most like someone you would see at the mall. Just ordinary people.. who wouldn't give up. SW

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