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 Post subject: Crash site Messerschitt Bf 109 G
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:50 pm 
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There are about 5-6000 WWII crash sites of German and allied aircraft in the Netherlands.
As long as these crashed planes don’t interfere with for instance building new houses we just leave them in the ground.
When they start building houses near the crash site the wreck is salvaged.
Last Monday the Dutch Army and Air Force started recovering a German Messerschmitt Bf 109 G.
The aircraft crashed on January 30th 1944 at 13.30 hours near the city of Apeldoorn (about 20 miles north of Arnhem).
There was not much left of the aircraft.
Next to the debris like the engine, propeller, machine gun they found human remains and the so called “Erkennungsmarke”.
That’s German for Dogtag.
When they have identified the German pilot they will bring him back to Germany where he will be buried.
German enemy or not....he was a soldier and has a right to be buried in his homeland.
When possible the family will be informed.

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....what is left of the propellers


I will update this post when there are new developements.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin


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 Post subject: Re: Crash site Messerschitt Bf 109 G
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:01 pm 
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wow , this is really interesting , was this out in the countryside back then ? inaccessible ? its interesting that the soldier[flyer] wasnt recovered sooner ,

i agree returning him for a decent and fitting burrial is only proper , he served with honor even if he was on the wrong side


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 Post subject: Re: Crash site Messerschmitt Bf 109 G
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:17 pm 
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I just read a story told by an eye witness of the crash.
He saw the plane coming down with the pilot hanging out of the cockpit trying to get out.
After the plane crashed the Germans came to the site and collected some materials, but completely ignored the pilot.
The pilot was buried a couple of meters from his plane by the eyewitness.
The crash site became a special part in the family's garden.
The children even played there and later horses were kept on that piece of land.
The children bragged over it.
They had a German fighter plane buried in their garden.
Decades later the eyewitness visited the museum of Deelen Air Force Base.
This base was build by the Germans in WWII just north of Arnhem.
In this museum he saw the engine of a Messerschmitt and said that an engine like that was still buried in his garden.
A volunteer of the museum overheard him saying that and one thing lead to another.
Last Monday our Army and Air Force started digging.


I'll keep you posted.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin


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 Post subject: Re: Crash site Messerschitt Bf 109 G
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:12 pm 
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Very interesting!


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 Post subject: Re: Crash site Messerschitt Bf 109 G
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I guess we on this side of the pond don't stop and think about such things as we didn't have them here. Sometimes I wonder if my brother wasn't on a bomber during the war as he was a POW and escaped from the camp but he has long passed so there is no more info.

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 Post subject: Re: Crash site Messerschitt Bf 109 G
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you are so right RAD , we dont generally think of such things , but i know out east where the civil war occurred they do ,

do keep us posted martin , i find this fascinating to learn about


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