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 Post subject: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:10 am 
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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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Well, not actually a Jeep - a Bantam Car Co. version of same - possibly in testing. Looks like a good way to have back problems for the rest of your life! :-o SW


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:25 pm 
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got a few today , and im quite sure the four wheelers we were on never left the ground by that far over the weekend


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
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I wouldn't want to be the poor GI that had to do the next PM on that one.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:45 pm 
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Bantam Car Co made the first jeep but couldn't keep up and the gov. contracted ford ect to go in to mass production.

this was my flying jeep :jmp:

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:05 pm 
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Теперь предлагаем бесплатную ежедневную маммографию!
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A S***hook! Rode in one of those a few times. SW

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
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:wink:I logged alot of hours in the sh*thooks doing farps.flying gas tank. :-o a big kaboom if they pack in.
we were flying back to ft hood on final approach and a engine blew.the puker factor was 10.
pete

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
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I have always wanted a Ford built "Jeep". That was a test run for the brass to show what it could do and how versatile they were. I have the same photo in one of my WW2 vehicle books.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:01 pm 
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I once stored a old jeep + some kind of morder on wheels for a friend who inherited it from his granddad.Had it for 2 years before he came and got it. It was the sign for the granddads store,ARMY JOES SURPLUS.
I helped him sell a lot of the inventory from the store.Got several nice guns out of that deal 2.

He sold the jeep for peanuts a few years back,it was pretty ruff shape by then.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
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Boy I wish some one would let me store that! That is only if they never came back for it! I started to watch the old series Rat Patrol last night and they are launching their jeeps all the time. I wonder how many they went through!

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:08 am 
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txpete wrote:
Bantam Car Co made the first jeep but couldn't keep up and the gov. contracted ford ect to go in to mass production.

Its not that they couldn't keep up, although that probably would've been the case had things gone the way Bantam wanted them to.
The way I understand the story, the Army was looking to replace the horse as the main mode of transportation.
Dodge met this in the 30's with the WC class of truck, but the army wanted something a bit more "nimble" and "utilitarian".
They put out a bid that stated that a working prototype be delivered in 49 days and done within a certain budget.
The only company to come through, in that short amount of time, was Bantam.
Willys and Ford could produce, they just needed more time.
Anyway, when testing finally came around, Bantam, Willys and Ford all fielded entries.
The Bantam entry seemed to be the closest thing to what the army was looking for, so its design was accepted.
(Side Note: there's a story that one of the things about the Jeep, that the Army wanted, was to have it be able to be lifted by a small group of soldiers, in case it got stuck in a hole. To test this, a very large sargent was asked if he could lift the Jeep on his own. He grabbed the back end and picked it up, exclaiming, "It feels like 1300 pounds to me". The design was accepted, partly, on that appraisal)
The Bantam Jeep was actually produced, although only for a very short time.
Its known in Jeep circles as a "Ma Jeep", since its designation was MA.
The biggest problem with the Bantam entry was that the engine lacked power.
Same with the Ford.
This is what made Willys stand out. With 60 horses on tap, it was far and away the most powerful entry.
Now comes the crappy part (unless you're a Ford fan).
Ford and the US Military already had an established relationship and the Government knew that Ford could produce in the numbers that they require, during a time of war...SO...after Bantam had spent countless hours working out the design of the vehicle (its said that engineers spent all 49 days at the factory, working in shifts, so that they could get the project done on time), the Army turned right around and gave the whole project to Ford.
Willys was allowed to also produce Jeeps, since the engine was theirs and not designed on spec, as Bantam had done with the vehicle.
This "sharing" of production angered Ford, since they assumed they would have the contract all to themselves, so (as a sort of act of defiance) the head of every bolt that was used on every Jeep that was built at the Ford factory has the stylized "F" cast into it, to show whoever saw that bolt that this particular vehicle was BUILT BY FORD, not...er, whatsername.
The pic Neberhogger posted seems to be part of the testing trials, as I've seen bits of footage in the past with "G.I.'s" tearing along an off road course at break neck speed.
It seems to be towing a 37mm anti-tank gun.
So, in the end, the design was created by Bantam, powered by Willys and (for the most part) built by Ford.
Bantam did receive a military contract out of this venture, though.....they built the trailers that were designed to be towed by the Jeep.

...that's how I understand the story, anyway.



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 Post subject: Re: Flying Jeep
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:37 am 
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Mybusa wrote:
Boy I wish some one would let me store that! That is only if they never came back for it! I started to watch the old series Rat Patrol last night and they are launching their jeeps all the time. I wonder how many they went through!

JOHNNY WACKO I got a pm for you.

Coolest opening to any TV show.....EVER!
Man, I can still see that Jeep flying over that sand dune, in my mind, like it was yesterday.
That show was also based in fact. There actually was a company of "Jeepers" that raided German air bases in North Africa during WWII.
Thanks for the reminder, Mybusa. I'll have to see about renting that one this weekend.



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