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Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Great news! Those XX bbls can shoot. Time do dig for a little info I'm assuming a 24" bbl. What pellets are you using? And last of all.... Pics of gun please! Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | NebrHogger [ Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
I found a tin of 17.1 grain pointed pellets locally. Monday, there will be a tin of the 14.3 grain domed variety. Thinking on the matter, I'm sure skirted pellets help a lot with accuracy. Pics of the gun later on today. SW |
Author: | A square 10 [ Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
shoots very well it seems , |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
There should be a small scale for windage on the front of the sight block, and a single index line on top of the plastic breech~ unless crosman has changed their mfg process... Is that rear sight block steel, or plastic? Gun appears to be a modified 22-60 tube with the air intake and pivot pin holes milled into it. Front band is a major improvement over the skinny stuff done previously. I'm guessing that the small band screw with it's nut passes through a roll-pin for a pivot pin. It's been done before on the 2100 and 2200 series pumpers. You may want to loosen it off a little for barrel removal. It would be a good idea to run a patch over a button jag 3 or 4 times, just to get the sticky goo out of the bore. The micro-groove type rifling on these barrels is easy to clean. Just something to think of while you have the bbl out for the breech change... You should be able to do a trigger improvement. The series 60 triggers have an adjuster screw through the rear. The tube will have to be taken out of the stock to access it. All of the 60 series triggers I've worked on require a lighter spring, and a sear polish to get them down to manageable enough for off-hand- which is the general idea of these guns. The side plate is removable by the looks of it. The factory spring can only be backed off so far, other wise the sear will fail to engage. In real life practice, a slightly longer, lighter coiled trigger spring does the trick. Let me know if you want a step by step on the trigger. I have a 78 here with a different guard, but similar internals. The last question concerns the piston. The competition went with a nice brass flat top piston. I would not be surprised if Crosman tried to compete at this level. Could you do a pic of the inside of the tube, with the pump arm extended? You don't have to dismantle anything- just open the pump arm all the way, and photograph what you can see. There's an equal chance they went with the old stand-by cup piston- which can be remedied... How hard is it to pump up to 8 pumps? Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:24 am ] |
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Author: | NebrHogger [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Not that much resistance when going for 8 pumps. I did discover I needed to avoid pinching fingers when pumping, though. Plastic sight base, and I don't see windage marks. Probably omitted to save time & money. Picks of the piston when I have it apart for installing the steel breech this afternoon. SW |
Author: | NebrHogger [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:11 pm ] |
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Pics on hold - I didn't realize today is a holiday = no mail. SW ETA - Now the site's showing "delivery date pending". So no telling how long. |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
I still don't even have a tracking note for the order I placed last week. Vendor I'm dealing with is usually pretty good too. I'll give it a couple more days before I start making enquiries. Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | A square 10 [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
i have an early teens [last century] webley scott mkI hand air gun that i picked up quite a while back , i tried it out recently , still pumps up and propels just fine , also i have an old crossman rifle that dates to the early 80s that was my dads you can pump multiple times to increase pressure - it works fine too , not sure if my DPMS full auto BB gun still holds a seal on the CO2 cartridge but i know it leaks over time , |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Found an on-line tutorial for your breech conversion. Some fairly clear photo's in here and some points I have not seen before. Probably a worth-while read. https://hardairmagazine.com/news/lets-f ... osman-362/ Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | NebrHogger [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Doc, Thanks very much! Got a notification the breech and stuff will be delivered Friday now. Shipping was only $10, so I guess I have to put up with it. I'm still giving that Diana Stormrider the fish eye. Not saying I'll buy it, but the concept is intriguing. SW |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Tubes on the Artemis/Diana/Snowpeak Stormrider PCP are rated for 200 bar. I have the earlier variant, and used it at the max pressure for about a year. A seal kit would probably revive it. I should probably back off to 180 bar after I rebuild it. I still have to do some research and find out if I can get the new variant's valve into my rifle. Doing so would probably increase it's longetivity. If you go this route, get it with the Huma regulator installed. It will flatten the shot strings considerably. You should be prepared for a work-out pumping it up. To get to 200 bar with my hand pump I need to take a couple of breaks from pumping. Topping up from 100-120 bar is a lot easier than filling the gun from empty. Edit: 200 Bar = just under 3k PSI Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
Sorry for getting to this so late- family matters have prevented my usual schedule. That is a cup piston in there, and it's looking a bit on the dry side. A drop of light oil on the rubber part, and on the linkage arm pivot points will keep the gun happy for the time being. It does not have to be "Crosman Pel-gun Oil". Any light non-additive, non detergent oil will do. Personally, I've been using the same pint of "air tool oil" bought from Wally about 10 years ago. It's so old now the spout has split. I'm not sure about Hoppes #9 oil, and how it's preservatives will react with rubber and delrin. I do use it on the outside of my barrels though- just for added rust protection. Shoot it for a while. Next mod to consider is a flat top piston. It would be worth it to read up and around on it. A reasonable stop would be the Gateway To Airguns website. I like the flat top piston- it reduces the number of pump strokes, and increases efficiency a bit over the cup piston. The simple O-ring arrangement is easier to service and replace. Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | Doc Sharptail [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
There's a flat top piston there at bottom, with the cup piston from a Crosman 2200 rifle at top. This is the competition's flat top piston, complete with felt oil wiper. Comparison photo of a cup piston valve from a 760 with a flat top modified 13-XX valve. It get's a bit labor intensive. With a reasonable drill press, I can do a complete job in about 4 hours. Threaded sections of the flat top pistons are 3/16" X 24 threaded rod. 1/4" X 20 can be used as well. I prefer the finer threading of the smaller threaded rods- it makes adjustments a little easier to make. Regards, Doc Sharptail |
Author: | A square 10 [ Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Crosman 362 test |
nice , you guys are outa my league in this realm but id sure enjoy one if i ever got the right moment in time , maybe ill have to look at the ones the owner of the gun club has up for sale , they have real target sights on them so i suspect you two might approve , they have a large loop pump handle but ive not checked them up close , he has them hung with a kimber 82G thats stock , |
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