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Author: | NebrHogger [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:01 pm ] | |||
Post subject: | Loading the 577/450 Martini-Henry | |||
Success!!! I made it out to shoot my Gahendra just now and am very happy with the results!!! I slugged the bore 3 times and it came up .457 +/- every time. Long time loaders of this caliber said the 577/450 is typically not that tight & I very much believe that. For some reason, this one is that tight. I used .458 hollow base bullets @ 400 - 405 grains made from straight wheel weights over 30.0/AA 5744. I still don't have any real black. Using the Lee dies, the bullets were loose in the neck after FL sizing, so I used a 45 Colt FL die to correct that just like I do for 43 Dutch Beaumont. Used a firm crimp. Keep in mind that normal bore diameter for Brit Martini-Henrys is around .468, give or take. The Gahendras and Martini-Henry copies made in Nepal have tighter bores. As with any other cast bullet application, be sure to slug your bore and select a bullet .001/.002" over that diameter for a good gas seal. This will help accuracy more than I can describe. I was out of targets & it was too late in the day to buy more @ wally, so I just grabbed a small box from the pharmacy dumpster & marked it with a sharpie. No measured yardage where I shot so I paced off a distance between 50 & 60 yards. ( it was rough ground) Shooting with only my elbows as a rest from a picnic table, I got the group shown which was about 4" high @ the distance specified. I wasn't so concerned with group as I was with keyholing. That would have shown the bullet was too small for the bore, but happily, that was not the case. Cases dropped from the chamber - hardly any soot on them - almost no granular powder residue which I believe shows the powder is buring efficiently in the barrel. Recoil was not a bit painful - the rifle is heavy enough to help. The Gahendra fits me really well, too. I'm 6-3 & had it in my mind soldiers from Nepal might be shorter... I dunno. A 577/450 cartridge is shown beside the group for size perspective. Velocity for 3 shots went: 1297 - 1236 & 1300 on the money. I don't mean that this report is the final word - far from it. It's a place to start. For other experimenters, the 1st order of biz is to slug the bore and select a bullet just slightly wider than that. - Just like any other cast bullet application. Make of the data what you will. In addition to the target, I"ve shown how I reduced the neck diameter of the case with a 45 Colt FL die to hold the smaller bullet - a standard FL sized 577/450 is shown for comparison. I did this operation very carefully. Jamison cases cost $3.63 EACH, and I didn't want to ruin any. If you are careful, cases can be made from the cheeper 24 gauge brass shotgun cases, but I was afraid I'd ruin so many there would be no savings. I am happy with the results and feel I need look no farther for a standard load for this particular rifle. SW *** all the standard caveats and disclaimers apply here.. don't run with scissors... etc & so forth! *** Edit to add: given the odd design of the hammer, I do not recommend dry firing a Gahendra.
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Author: | HerrMesser [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Loading the 577/450 Martini-Henry |
To me that is good shooting with open sights. Rad |
Author: | A square 10 [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Loading the 577/450 Martini-Henry |
to me its probably unattainable , nice |
Author: | NebrHogger [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Loading the 577/450 Martini-Henry |
Did you ever watch "Little Big Man"? You have to do like Dustin Hoffman's sister told him... "get all snake-eyed"!! Focus on front sight... pres-s-s-s-s-s- the trigger. Follow through with the trigger pull... and have the targer close! Really though, this and the Snider are actually fun to shoot. They are heavy enough that recoil is almost nothing, and when the big bullet hits a rock, the rock breaks! I am a real sucker for odd stuff like this. More coming! SW |
Author: | toot [ Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Loading the 577/450 Martini-Henry |
thanks for sharing it with us. don't dry fire any MARTINI HENRY. for a snap cao I take a fired case and pop out out the primer and insert into the primer pocket a lead pencil eraser, that will absoreb the shock of it botomen out when dry fired. |
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