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New and current Crosman 13-77 in .177 caliber. It was on sale at 25 bucks off, and I could not walk by it and ignore...

Turned into a quickie rebuild project....

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That's the same gun with the bbl swapped out to a 24" 1760 version .177. Scope's my ever pardner 6-24X 42mm A/O Banner. Got rid of the plastic receiver breech and went with Crosman steel. Packer stock from the personal collection airgun bits and pieces box. Had to swap out the pump handle- that neo modernist carbon fibre handle has a wicked knife edge where I position my palm for silent pumping...

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That's 5 of the JSB 8.44 gr Exact dome pellets at 12 meters. 6 pumps ,6X on the big Banner, and it hits nice and hard.

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I'd say the resident pigeons better pack up & move across town! SW

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Would that be the same as a model PC 77. Where can I get a barrel and stock like yours to put on mine?

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It's marketed as the American Classic...

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The packer frame stock,

24" bbl

and steel breech unit -are all available through crosman.com

I'm not sure that the plastic breech on these guns will support a 24" bbl- a little too much leverage there.

I think the current 24" .177 bbl they now ship is the one made for the Discovery- the 1760 version has been discontinued.

The crosman custom shop also puts guns together like this...

If you do it your self, the pivot block/bbl band will have to be drilled out to allow the longer bbl to pass through. 29/64" is the bit you want...

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Thought of you when I saw this. Looks like a real challenge! SW

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Kind of an expensive challenge too- 299.00 starting, and no takers.
Looks like 0.175" round ball/b.b. from what I can see in the photos. If it's as old as claimed, the seals are likely leather and paper.
Brass bores do age well though- the rifling in that old 101 of mine is still very sharp and strong...

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Just a quick word here-

The discovery bbls can be a crapshoot. Order by phone if you can. They may have a older version bbl laying around.

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I could find the stock and the breech but no barrels. Figured I would have to call them.

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Let us know how you make out...

Next up for me on this build is converting it to a 1701-P grip frame and trigger.
This conversion requires a different hammer than the "waisted" stock 13-XX hammer, to prevent damage to the compound lever sear components in the 1701-P grip frame.

Trigger improvement is abot 11,000% :lol

I may have an old 125 hammer around here that I can cut down...

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I can get a custom for $106 US and some change + shipping. That would be shoulder stock, steel breech and 18" barrel in .177 cal. Just have to think on a while. That is 1300KT pump.

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I have an 18" crosman bbl here in .22, and it is a tack driver.
It seems to want Heavy for cal. pellets: 16 grains and up.
That is a good price for a K/T version 13-XX.

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