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Author:  NebrHogger [ Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  A scarce one
I dropped a bid on this never thinking I'd actually get it. But I did. This is an 1870TS for carabineiri (sp) which is much scarcer than a moschetto. Even scarcer still since it's been converted to 6,5 Carcano. These were meant for police use.

It's the only one I've ever seen offered for sale. I'll post comparison pics with my 1870 Moschetto when I have it in hand.

The bajonet??? That will be a tough one! Even if I find one for this model - a very long shot - they were not made to be interchangeable. Another one might fit - hand fitting would be much more likely.

But I'm the only kid on my block to have one! ;) :bigrin: :crzy: :rotflma: SW

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Author:  A square 10 [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
really - the bayonete was hand fitted to each rifle ? and not one that allowed slop to compensate ? should be an interesting bit for sure , nice grab - keep us up yo date ,
Author:  NebrHogger [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
On later Italian Vetterlis, you will see cursive PP on the top barrel flat with is the abbreviation for interchangeable parts. The early Vetts didn't have that. I had two 1870 Moschettos, and the bajonet would flat not interchange.

Must have been something the gunsmith union dreamed up to promote job security. ;) SW
Author:  A square 10 [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
sounds like something that might occur - ive always looked at the minimum of interchangeability/compatible parts as a plus in collecting but i see the allure of these
Author:  ANDREY [ Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
Saw something that looks suspiciously like this yesterday in Ciney.
I didin't have a magazine and the rear sights were different.
This one did not have a bayonet either.
Tom thinks it might have been converted to single shot ?
Or maybe it's a different model alll together.
Can't tell you more as this was at one of the no-touch tables ...
Condition was very good to excellent, priced at 1500.

BRGDS, A
Author:  NebrHogger [ Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
These were made as single shots. When WW1 began, a FEW were converted to 6,5 caliber since there weren't enough Carcanos to meet demand.

I need to come over & look around at Ciney for a bajonet. I saw two on 2dehands that look close, but personal inspection is required. SW
Author:  ANDREY [ Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
That must be it then !

A
Author:  NebrHogger [ Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A scarce one
Here's a better pic of it mocked up with a moschetto bajonet which is way too short.

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While I'm at it, I just scored this fascist hat/fez device. I thought it might work on my Spanish Guardia Civil hat, but Andrey pointed out it lacks a critical component for that. But it won't take up much room. SW

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