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Did I say I want one????
Just as I was leaving, this guy plops down next to me and I do a quick glance over. I think I see a 742 Remington. Then he unloads cast lead bullets in .45 caliber. Still not paying close attention, I assumed it was one of those in-line rifles. The range officer whispers to me, it's a new .45 caliber air rifle capable of shooting that 180 grain 45 pill at 850 fps. What!! Out comes an air tank, and he fills the port in the rifle from this air tank. It lets him have 8 shots before needing a refill. Golly, the rifle looks like the Rem 742 semi auto. You slide a port open, push the bullet in,close port, and cock the lever on the right side, which looks like the slide handle. He was just sighting in his new 3x9 scope. He was shooting at 50 yards and was impacting inside one of those 6" shoot and see targets. I should have stayed for a closer inspection, especially to see how it grouped...Now, for the good parts...he says he has one in .22 caliber that shoots 1250 fps and has comperable if not better accuracy than most .22 lr rifles. It is NOT considered a firearm, it uses air! (Just wait till the legislators here that.) No Federal restrictions!.(England considers any air gun with 5 ft lbs of energy to be a gun.) A .45 at 850 fps is equal almost to a .45ACP!. This guy said the rifle was $550, but the air holding tank, which is dragged nearby could be quite heavy. He bought the best; a fiber tank and he hinted it cost more than the rifle. He can use it though on his other guns. Know what he says he has on order? A .87 caliber rifle that shoots a 900 grain slug. I should have asked the velocity on that one. The sound of the .45 airgun was about twice as loud as my .22 pellet gun. You could hear the bullet slap the cardboard. Now he did say he came to the range with a low tank, so velocitys may have been slower. He fills the big tank at a dive shop, and fills the gun with a thin hose that snaps quick-connect to a port on the rifle. I am gonna research them and see if they make them in the 30 calibers. The gun is made in China and was of firearm quality.


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I have fired a 9mm air rifle. If I recall it was in the 1000 fps range. Had a cylinder that hung under the barrel. The barrel itself had a sort of 'silencer' on the end of it. Fellow said it was about $ 600 and could fill the cylinder with a hand pump or a pump that plugged into the lighter on his car.

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This didnt have any visible (that is really noticible)holding tank on the rifle, which really resembled a Rem 742. The filling tank was on the bench behind him, and he would fill from the tank. Further research indicates FPS to be more in the 700 range. Here is the gun...just over $500


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I wonder how expensive the ammo is?

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Not such a 'new' inovation



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No it's not a new innovation, but it really wasn't that available either. Cost of the bullets are no more than lead cast for pistols. The tank is carried to the range and placed behind the point. You only refill every 6-8 shots.Wouldn't be that much trouble. The real difficulty is, the tank needs to be professionally filled, like from a dive shop. The tank can be filled to 4500 LBS pressure I believe. Duh, I don't think the corner air filler can do that.


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Dive shops only fill to 2250 lb unless they have changed since I did it years ago. Their cascade system was only fill to 3000 lb.

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There was a Korean company importing 20 gauge "air" shotguns and .38 cal. rifles just a few years ago.The 20 gauge was said to be capable of taking deer size critters.I don't have the specs or info anymore.
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